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  1. 3 points
    jimmyvbuck

    Stuff and Things

    Okay so I want to start this out with a fairly simple statement....Curu, YOU CANT FORCE PLAYER INTERACTION NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO. Now to elaborate on that it's fairly simple, if a person does not want to deal with other players much, they won't. Anything you try to do game wise to try and force a mechanic is not going to have the desired effect. Even with these super war mechanics we are all talking about will NOT force a player to interact since they can easily just ignore it. I 100% understand why you are trying so hard to force interaction, because we did nothing for like 50 turns, however I would like to point out that in this RP there are 2 roads right now, you either go to war, or you turtle, that's it. The issue this round is that everyone decided to turtle, usually we have some more aggressive people but panzer joined late and I decided to go passive this round, some people will always be more passive, it's just how they are, trying to force them to play a way they don't want to will just make them not join in the first place. Now moving on, I do agree we need some more mechanics, not really for forcing interaction though, it's more for stuff to do. A big issue right now imo is that like I said, it's either war or turtle and do nothing. So we need some more things to do to keep us interested in between wars. Now we have talked about a few things in discord but they are ALL military related, things to try and prod people into war over stuff and let me say that based on what I have seen from players that doing these things will only have the people that already are more aggressive be more aggressive, the people that just want to sit back and chill will do just that, they can live without a good planet or a cool artifact and in the extreme case of the (imo) silly tech resource thing they will just live without certain techs. This goes back to how you just cant force some people to do something they just dont want to do. There is one thing you need to understand with this and all RPs like this....Not everyone plays to fight, and as long as people are enjoying themselves I see no issue with that, the issue is we also need to entertain Curu and keep him invested, and the only way we can do that is through war. Now after that little rant I will move on to the mechanic I personally like the most that we talked about, the artifact. Now I like the artifact WAY more than the planet idea for a few reasons, the first being that taking a planet is very hard and costly if it's well defended, and a treasure world or whatever you want to call it will be well defended, probably to the point that taking it would not even be worth the cost. But an artifact could be taken through military force, or through espionage. Now lets look at some things we could do with these artifacts: Move them around with ships, this would make them more vulnerable to an attack during transportation but would let you move it if you think someone found out where it was or was coming for it. Let people spy to find it's location (if it's on a ship maybe tell where the ship currently is?) Let people then spy at that location to try and steal it If they do steal it make them then need to bring it back giving the other faction a chance to try and get it back Let people just straight up fight openly for it, this would usually be in space since a ground fight is harder but if they want it badly enough they could try and fight on the planet for it As for what they will do I would make them have a system wide effect while on a planet (maybe restrict it to a colony/stronghold(or other non-gov thing) or even maybe an FOB). This way people could not just keep them on a ship, but it would also let people move them around to give different systems different bonuses, like maybe one artifact gives a boost to CV, so you might move that into a system you think is about to get attacked. One gives a bonus to mine income so you move it into your best mining system. The biggest question with these is scale. How many do we want to have? We could have a decent amount but they are all very specific for certain things and not crazy OP or we could have a few, really powerful ones. Personally I think having a few more with more varied effects is better. You could even put them on specific planets at the start of the round, and when people scan/survey the planet they might detect something, then they need to go down and actually look for it. This way people won't know how many there are, and it will just be another thing to do, search for the artifacts. The big concern I have here though is that I don't think they will be contested that much. Spying could have you go undetected, or it could reveal you, and most people don't spy too much because if you get discovered, there is a big chance it will lead to war, thus I am putting forward my 2nd major change...A change to how spys work when discovered. So right now when a spy is discovered you just know who did it, my change is to make the faction that caught the spy do interrogations to find out who they work for. This would be in the form of a dice roll every turn, and every turn the dice roll odds get more and more in favor of success (basically the spy reaching the breaking point). Now the entire reason behind this time gating is to give the other faction the chance to attempt a rescue operation. Now this could go even more in depth by letting the faction doing the interrogation actually move the enemy spy to a different location before beginning, meaning the other faction would need to actually find out where they went, this would mean it takes more time to find out who did it, but also makes it less likely for interference. This would add a whole new level to spying, failure would no longer mean instant discovery and possible war, you would get a chance to fix things, and would give non-govs some more work possibly as well since they could be hired to go rescue the spy in your place, in fact that would be better since if they are discovered while trying the rescue the other person won't know who hired them in the first place. Now along with this I would like to actually add a "Spy" unit, instead of just always using SF for everything, you could even make a new building that lets you build up spies to a cap so people could focus more on that if they wanted, but that might be going to far right now so idk.
  2. 1 point
    Curufinwe

    Round VII Format

    Alright, so we're going to go with a slightly downgraded version of the accelerated start, meaning that people will start with a bit extra but not quite as much as last time. I think that the last accelerated start was a good innovation, in that it allowed things to heat up a bit more quickly, so we'll be doing a variation of that again. But yeah, here's the plan: 1) For Govs; - A fully surveyed home system, meaning every planet and moon in your HS is already surveyed and ready to be mined (you can build said mines or trading emporiums with your starting monies) - A free medium tech of your choice - 300b in starting monies for units and buildings - One colony with a starting population of 26m inhabitants in your HS If someone would prefer to forgo the colony then they can instead select an additional medium tech to start with. 2) For non-Govs - Outposts in 5 systems to start with, rather than 3 - A free medium tech of your choice - 45b in starting monies for units and buildings - One colony with a starting population of 26m inhabitants in a system in which you have an outpost (it can't be in another players' HS) If someone would prefer to forgo the colony then they can instead select an additional medium tech to start with.
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